Can any1 give me some advise plz :(

[sharont]

Has any1 any suggestions. Ive moved my welshy to a new livery yard along with his field mate. He doesnt seem to be getting on with one of the geldings in the field and he came in the other week with a cut on his leg, i bought him in last nite and he had been kicked just to the side of his tail and has a massive lump and a big shoe mark there . Im so worried that hez going to get seriously hurt, is there anything i can do, or do they tend to sort there diferences out eventually? ive never been on a livery yard before! Hez been there about 2 months now. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Sharon xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[september]

Sorry to hear about your problem .Is there anywhere else you can turn your welshy out?I suppose he might learn to avoid the other horse but it's not fair on yours ,is it?
Sorry I'm not much help,good luck in what ever you do.

[sharont]

thanks for replying, no there isnt, we have a mares field and a geldings field and thats all. Apparantly the horse which keeps going after myn, is a bit of a pain, they say he gets really agressive in the winter months. Hez kicked a young girl in the face on 2 occasions causing her to need surgery just hope they make friends xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[lotte]

hey sharont,
my advice is serious-move livery yards if possible if there are no other fields available.
if you cant move yards then really talk to someone at the yard about different turnout. My mare is at a private livery yard, only 3 other horses, two of which are bullies-mum and daughter, very attached. one day i came back to find my mare with a huge rip and hole in her rug where she had been kicked, luckily her rug protected her. i hate to think what could have happened because they got her cornered.
theses situations can be really really dangerous. as soon as it happened i made sure i could move her and now she grazes with a shetland.
i will never have her back with them, and the other lady that is keeping a horse there said that she would rather have her horses graze alone than with them.

i knew a lady that had a horse that was kicked in the field and had a bone chipped in her leg-it cost £800 to get the horse back to only slightly lame. let alone the upset the horse had gone through.
Its a very difficult situation your in, as I know, but after 2months if they were going to settle down, they would have by now. I think you have to make the decision to move your horse out of harms way, or suggest that the bully horse should be moved-although that might make things more difficult.

hope everything works out ok. best wishes

lotte x x x x

[sharont]

yeh, its really difficult, its a riding school where i am keeping him, they have fields for the riding school horses which are seperate then they have a field for the livery mares and a field for the livery geldings. He gets along fine with all the other geldings, its as if my horse and this other horse are both wating to be leader of the herd as before i moved on to the yard this other horse was the boss. Most of the time they completely ignore eachother and other times, the other horse just makes a bee line for my horse. One of the girls on the yard saw him get kicked, they were all at the gate waiting to come in and my horse and the other horse were fightin to get to the front! its really getting me down

[lotte]

i know how you feel. but maybe you could get him moved with the riding school ponies?
you could wait to see what happens but something bad might happen one day and your horse could get really injured. I think if it was me I wouldn't leave them to it, I would def seperate them.

good luck
lotte x x x

[sharont]

Yep, thats true, i have asked my cousin to see if theres spaces on her yard, might try there x

[september]

OMG!!! Kicked someone in the face
That is a nasty horse,I would not tolerate it.Thats not normal horsey behavior.Like Lotte said I'd move, as fast as possible.I know it's easier said than do though,but whether a horse gets grumpy or not,that is not acceptable.
I don't get this separate turnout either, mine have been on mixed turn out for 20 odd years and have never had any problems at all.

[welsh gurl hj]

yeh i totally agree

that horse sounds nasty n tbh i think it shouldnt b turned out with ur/other horses!!! if possible move yards!! i had a simalar prob on my old yard n i moved!

all the best n big huggles to ur poor horsey

hannah xxx

[rosiehannah]

i know im just saying what everyone else is saying but talk to your yard owner and see if you can get your horse or the other moved out of the field for the time being...does the owner of the other horse know what her horse is getting up to? also, you say there is one field for the livery geldings, how many of them are there? could you see about splitting them into two separate groups based on which horses get on best together. or as has been suggested see if your horse can be integrated with the riding school ponies, my pony used to live with riding school ponies when we were a riding school/livery yard quite happily. was your welshy put straight into a field with the rest of the geldings?

if you decide to move, good luck, and for the time being be careful around the other horse. hope your welshy is ok

hannah xxx

[ysewynwelshcobs]

Hi Sharont,
I'm sorry to hear what your poor welshie (and you are going through).
Personnally, I don't think it will settle down, if it is already going on for 2 months. Normaly, they should have come to a certain 'understanding' already.
Maybe you could speak with the owners of the other geldings and try to find out, if they had/have the same problem, when their horses arrived.
Can't the field be divided in separate spaces ? It's not that difficult, the only things you need is some electrical wire and some of those moveable 'stakes'...
Or can't they simply be put in the field at different times ?
I realy do hope, you'll find a solutions.
Greet,
Stefan.

[sharont]

well when i first moved on they stayed in for a week (i moved with my friend and her horse) they were both turned out on the same day and got on fine with all the other horses (the nasty horse wasnt out on that day) then as soon as this horse was turned out thats when the problem started. The owner of this horse knows what her horse is doing and seems to ignore it, she never even apologises when he injures someone or another horse. She kind of pretends nothing has happened. Not sure y the horse only goes after my horse though and not the others, i think its because my horse doesnt seem to back down when he pushes him around, the others just walk off. There are 8 geldings in the field altogether. I will ask about dividing the field not sure if they will let me though, other than then i think i wll def move to another yard, i dont want to be worrying about him every day

[lotte]

hey sharont, you are right. no one could really say why your boy gets picked on apart from that he is the next dominant male in the herd and the other is fighting him for the 'boss' label.
its really unfortunate and i think you are doing the right thing trying to move.
I really hope it gets sorted out.

lotte x x x

[rosiehannah]

the problem may be that the agressive horse feels threatened by your welshy, if the first day they were in the group your boy managed to assert him self and become the 'leader' and the next day the dominant gelding was turned out and realised this he is probably trying to regain strength in his position. not that i agree that he should be allowed to behave like this but that might be how it is.

you shouldnt have to worry about your horse every day, do what is right for you and your ned and i am sure you will be happy

hannah xxx

[jayne]

i agree yo should talk to the owners of the riding school where you keep him and they should sort something out. I run a yard and try to keep small groups that are compatable. I own a bossy pony that tries to rule the roost and i put him on his own or with 2 welsh A's that he grew up with so theres no problem, i wouldn 't dream of putting him with 1 of the livery's. If you speak to the owners of the yard and they don't or can't do anything then you are left with no choice but to move him elsewhere.