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Post by ysewynwelshcobs on Feb 4, 2007 21:00:31 GMT
Hi,
I might consider to cover a section D-mare by a section A-stallion (most likely via A.I.).
What do you think about the idea ? I realy want to know how breeders/people in general think about this. All your honest opinions (positive or negative) would be appreciated.
Thanks & regards, Stefan.
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Post by rosiehannah on Feb 4, 2007 21:23:16 GMT
i dont think it would be a problem, but i know diddly squat about such things. you coud get a nice sec c or a small d. if you think about it, thats how we get some of the c's anyway hannah
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Post by ysewynwelshcobs on Feb 5, 2007 8:34:58 GMT
Yes, it would most likely only be a C... and quite honestly, I would prefer a big C instead of a small D (thinking about future showing prospects)... But, my biggest concern is that real D-breeders would see this (crossing a D-mare with an A-stallion) as a waste of her D-bloodlines.
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Post by september on Feb 5, 2007 11:41:43 GMT
I don't know nothing about breeding etc but I have been reading about this,and from what I've read it's starting go get popular.I also got the impression that people think it is safer for the mare.If I was a breeder this is the cross I would choose and how can it be a was of good cob bloodlines,especially if it is to good sec A bloodlines,I bet you'd get a cracking up to height C ;D but as I said "I know nothing" ;Dlol
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Post by rosiehannah on Feb 5, 2007 21:20:50 GMT
some of the a's look fantastic, as do the d's, you could get a fantastic c from that!
hannah
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Post by lotte on Feb 5, 2007 21:39:19 GMT
one of our arab stallions has covered a sec a and c-naturally! i think it would turn out ok but AI would prb be more sensible obviously! you prob would get a small c cos the baby gets 75% of mothers genes.
just be careful that you don't get a stallion with too much bone and weight otherwise you may end up with a VERY stocky small pony. get a stallion that is known to pass on his best traits to the baby whilst letting the mothers best traits to come thru too.for instance, one of our stallions, again arab, always passes on long legs so we don't have to worry about the dam having these;we can concentrate on other aspects like conformation and temperament.
dunno if that is much help, s'pose just my opinion! lotte
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Post by ysewynwelshcobs on Feb 5, 2007 22:46:44 GMT
lotte, I do understand what you are saying... but I think you misunderstood... it's an A-STALLION on a D-MARE not vice versa.
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Post by lotte on Feb 6, 2007 13:53:17 GMT
yeah i understood that, although the foal will get 75% of mothers genes some traits will come through the from the father thats why i said you would get a small sec d and should look for a stallion with the right traits so the foal doesn't get the mothers size and the stockiness from the father if he is really big.
not sure what you thought i meant?!
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Post by ysewynwelshcobs on Feb 6, 2007 16:01:29 GMT
Lotte, Sorry, that I misunderstood (English is not my native language). I thaught you meant, that the foal might become too big for the mare... (since you were talking about too much bone and weight)... The stallion is a rather cobby-type for a section A, so I think he and my mare will go well together. We'll see. It's only something I am thinking about at the moment. Regards, Stefan.
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Post by september on Feb 6, 2007 16:31:34 GMT
I think as well people believe that the cob influence well be to great and you won't get enough pony characteristics if you use a D mare but it hasn't been sciencetifally(sp?)proven I saw a picture of a section C by an A stallion out of a D mare,it was beautiful,It was by Escley Tumble,He seems to be used alot on D mares.
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Post by september on Feb 6, 2007 16:53:01 GMT
Found the section C I like it's Abercippyn Tomboy,He's not that cobby, so it is a myth about the mare being a D, there is to much cob influence
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Post by lotte on Feb 6, 2007 17:57:44 GMT
thats ok stefan, it sounds good! best of luck i am sure if you do it you will have a lovely foal!
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Post by rosiehannah on Feb 6, 2007 22:25:08 GMT
'The Welsh Pony of Cob Type, Section C, is the stronger counterpart of the Welsh Pony, but with Cob blood.'so surely its how the c came about in the first place? just thought i would add in a bit of useless information as i've nothing better to say lol, and it means i can practise my spellings ;D hannah ;D
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Post by brightlands on Feb 11, 2007 21:25:06 GMT
we put our old A stallion on our D mare and had 2 C fillys, he ran out with her and covered with out any problems.
Nebo do alot of AxD to get a C
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Post by mary on Sept 20, 2007 9:27:42 GMT
I have a sec a stallion that this year has covered 10 sec d mares. I put the mares down some steps and he manages very well. all but 1 are in foal. so we are awaiting the results next year.
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